Art Attack Gr Discussion November Epeisode 2 English

Greek to English translation
Sunday, October 31, 2010
"Refining"
It is a term that is the English translation «gentrification». Derived from the word
«gentry» and means "the aristocracy of landowners. The "refining" actually refers to
the process by which poor working-class neighborhoods in the historic city center
"furbish (refresh) through the inflow of private capital, so enter them home buyers
and renters in the middle and upper classes.

"The example of Metaxourghiou is where the tool is a refined art," reads the study of
Aristotle, "the restoration and reuse of factory-Gas as an exhibition venue in the
neighboring district was marked the beginning of the change in character of the area .
The majority of "showrooms" were abandoned industrial sites or laboratories that had
occupied the homeless and migrants who are forcibly displaced for the sake of art.
Thus, the art project in Ceramic-Metaxourgio seem to act as vanguard for the
"refining" of the neighborhood, the expulsion of minority populations and the
unhindered arrival of the Real Estate ».

More here: Games speculators in the ghettos of Athens Eleftherotypia
Posted by Art Attack at Sunday, October 31, 2010

Art Attack said ...

'The thought of a new humanism' in the following Post a stick here chara.Anti him
looking at marathons and do not look a bit beside you kallitechnares me;
Sunday, October 31, 2010 11:27:00 AM
Anonymous said ...

so, Art, outside bordello, drugs, poverty and by means postmonternia. Why all
these galleries went here in the troubled region; It's so masochistic; Or care about the
"benefit"; Rumors say that most of the buildings gives them the different ways he a
gentleman has bought a chunk of the region. They mistake it;
Mr. He also has come to propose a "regeneration" in the same municipality, (of
course with "his" architects) through "residents committee" which is supported, as
published previously Eleftherotypia. I do not understand, Metaxourgeio now
belonging;; If let us say, to calm down and we guys.

(Quiz: Who architect has built several of the villas have the company of these
ladies in upcoming Greek island and also has created a large art project in Athens and
"art restaurant" in the region;. And what might all this mean for "state of affairs in
Greece; lot and nothing, depending on the ethics and aesthetics of the area in which
everyone moves now.)

Meanwhile, the ill-fated run artists behind the new spots to grab text out whether
any slice with sugar. Everyone knows, nobody speaks. The hunger is great. The
analgesia even greater. And most-consciously-made oil in mincer this profitable give
and take, dreaming that "make art", many of them even "politicized art »!!!, and that
one day one of these sharks will buy a ergaki and they too will make 2-3 grand Morea
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At least they all managed properties in the area and they all produce art that is
supposed there could be beyond the profitable for these reconstructions and to request
police patrols and cleaners to give any tiny space all, these trendy loft preparing to
moschopoulithoun only "clean" part art school ca no migrants, and spend no activity
in the miserable living there. So, okay, eat sushi, but fly in and out no pittance.
Neither the core of the "noble contribution to society (for profit) does not seem to
know some. Thus, the wool over the eyes, even!

Unfortunately greed is great. And trade has dominated over which the substance of
art. Absolutely.
Sunday, October 31, 2010 10:04:00 PM
Art Attack said ...

well what we are now discussing the guest artist in this country and in general
(rather) has long been synonymous with insecurity grab the cowardice of the interests
of the public relations of Viscounts and so on ... come to mind something artists 100
years ago, something Dadaists futurist something something something incredibly
surrealist concern incompatible people who were the epitome of the word artist and
catch the laughter, not tears say when I see our own rugs of our time. Do you see
something incredible that common worship something incredible psiloparagontes
ntemek (galleries, critics and otherwise) to see the warm and moving on facebook
subservience to trelatheis.Kai Council telling me now for more serious .. despair in
piano ...
Sunday, October 31, 2010 10:29:00 PM
Anonymous said ...

Hey Art, do it on purpose; I you talk about the forest that burned you tell me the
snail rubs his ass in the third legs of a bear right tree ... Personally do not care at all
how a playful mood everyone on facebook or anywhere, taste hat. His behavior was
only able to determine if you are (not) will make friends.
Here we talk about serious issues, deeply political and tangible with which we are
all the silence and our tolerance. Athens sold out a few smart entrepreneurs and
immigrants / infringing simply wiped, go to;;; The following neighborhood has
'virtuoso' interests to react;
I do not mind the goal of profit in itself. Well done everyone who wants to make
money. A lot of money. The question is how and on whose shoulders; Vines are
virtually brought down;
And the thing is that all of this as crucial points Eleftherotypia is an essential tool to
all those who should be at the forefront of social uplift, the radical democratic
discourse, the deep criticism of identifying weaknesses and issues of minorities, even
aesthetic structures, etc., etc. In such a plight has fallen almost the entire area of Art in
Greece.
When people are working to clear these interests while simultaneously playing
teachers, subversive artists, designers 'avant garde' project, etc. where now the stench
overwhelmed.
At least let everyone said what and what works. Regaining the traders dealers,
artists, performers and diannooumenoi diannooumenoi after discussion.

The above Anonymous.

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Sunday, October 31, 2010 11:41:00 PM
Art Attack said ...

And I am telling you this ... here is not to simply react to daily behavior in dignity
as a people to self-esteem and thou shalt be important to pay attention; Are
interrelated, it is not separate from the whole of a personality can not be licking
someone and at the same time to fighting for social injustices, it catches it;;

Forget the artist so he is represented, there is no longer what the artist or if there
have thrown in the margin or has withdrawn himself and often seems quaint and
because the whole society is steeped in this culture of ochaderfismou and eat and that
it's drink, there is no drop chips, everyone does everything possible to "pass" Well,
only that the endoaferei.To passes but how well is another long discussion, all now
want to avoid looking in the mirror himself for not is reminiscent of nothing and out
of the shot tous.Oli Greece is a morgue and think about how when and with whom to
drink the shots to drugged, as with longing to sit in front of the TA to look for serial
no be fooled to awaken the next day to go like a bull in douleia.Den guys want me to
say that, want to be zombies and make this life with the least possible losses, do not
want thoughts that will remind us that man is made for other things in life. A loser and
stupid people now, I see you in saying such things and tired, feel so tired and laughing
and listening to such animals thinking they are smart they and we too are stupid
because they supposedly captured the sense, while you are an idiot free to spend your
life in such ideological bullshit, do not get to speak for the simple necessities of life,
that does not talk about anything that is high akataktita, talks about the obvious due to
you got to stand out a piece of meat , want to go and meat is finished, we ate and
drank chesame fucked now we sleep soundly with the storyteller that we made and the
name of life, they know that just caught the vacuum, the mind does not go into such
paths. Well Why do you think should be different after the artists and 'This is made
(the most part) from the same paste ..

The above Art
Monday, November 01, 2010 1:49:00 AM
iconoclastes said ...

This bunch guys were the Greek artists of the establishment of the state. The few
exceptions do not invalidate this picture. There is nothing particularly surprising in
this, because, almost always, the artists were pretty much zava children tsiflikadikis
class which too would be urban (and why there was not educated and why political
and economic environment has stabilized ever).
[The Marathon does not fit, because this risk free citizens when they carry a
significant message to the common area.]
The relay is their sport, where one gives the baton to the handful of other, for sure.
Tsanakogleiftes egotistical of all powers to the profit embedded in their genetic code,
from ancestors owned land grabbers, loan sharks later and now real estate. Let us not
forget that the modern Greek state was founded on such a historic injustice, the
trampling of the Thessaly plain from the 'benefactors' and convert to kolligon
laborers. The center of Athens will escape?
The recipe tested: the first stacked cursed and problems, then come the artists tell
the "vision of the exit 'and come back to the mixer and ... go to the fund.
Monday, November 01, 2010 8:38:00 AM

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arsonist said ...

Iconoclastes, Landscapes exactly as is, and internationally. First, workers and
immigrants, then the artists who are looking for 'atmosphere' at the end of the Ravens
rials Estates.
(Slightly irrelevant, but it reminds me and this is the islands. First free campers
'discover' a divine beach, then come the restaurants and then the solid roumletadika
Leveling the universe. Somewhere in between, get the bat through fri leg Canberra
kedrakia , and similar trees.)
They came to my attention for months, something many achitektoniko-sociological
texts that address the whole issue, one that they like and draw manual and how to
become better 'development' and 'recovery', others denounce the known low t
ambiguous architectural fashion, but more correctly.
The model of Amsterdam is one such example, and in particular the waterfront of
Borneo, who studied and apparently Memorize.
We quote some name, I've only pdf, anyone interested in sending the emails to not
looking.

'Waterfront Regeneration', by Chunsong Wang, Cardiff University
'La transformation urbaine entre mondialisation neoliberale et altermondialisme',
Gustav Messiah
'Back to the Future of the Creative City: Amsterdam's creative development and the
art of deception', Merijin Oudenampsen
and another of (the?) Hallie Jones, who can not open the file from here where I am
right now.

I tried to translate a feature piece, to get an idea: I'm not a translator, to understand;
(Note, the Florida plays at all, the krieitiv klas it.)

"According to Florida, all people are creative and ultimately they are all potentially
part of the creative class, but only a small fraction are lucky enough to be paid. Here
is where the uncertainty, since the business is uncertain by definition.
The investments made are speculative, the risk it takes is a central issue. So, not
only the artist but the whole town is uncertain, the income to depend on the flow
exovelismenis creativity.
Past practices of social work as social housing and unemployment subsidies
gradually degraded.
C i a n t a e l e ¾ i e e r a p h i j e r a t i m a t a is the O iv and v i t a p r in t in i a i n
a e a k S T R O L eb in the r h n n h n m as parts As a r c a s t a k As in the u n d i c a l
i m p. As with everything i n a i t a t a p s t a t h in the terms m n n n h t h n t a r t
indirect min
The transformation of business in Amsterdam city has disturbing social
implications. While the city looks to attract investment and talented artists, the local
population who are not productive or can not be adequately marketed his creativity is
unnecessary. This surplus population is replaced slowly through urban regeneration
hostile to the locality. The "city facelift" revolves around the removal of one social
stratum just as Emma facelift removes fat.
The environment of the 'Creative City' is extremely remote. "

Personally, as an aid to another view of the 'gentrification' and 'exploitation' would

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suggest to friends to read the 'Mutual' Pyotr Kropotkin, a terrible book, ignored
entechnos nearly 100 years, written in response to a misunderstanding of the theory
Darwin's theory as the prevalence of strong, an excuse used routinely by neofileftheri
economy. The introduction by the author himself breaks normally.
The pieces of the book on the cities have much stuff on our subject.
Monday, November 01, 2010 10:54:00 AM
Panos Kompatsiaris said ...

about the gentrification, I propose to study the amazing Sharon Zukin-Loft Living:
Culture and Capital in Urban Change, which talks about de-industrialization process
in New York in 60's 70's t together with the simultaneous enlargement of the middle
class began to seek new 'experiences' housing defined by the bohemian-arty zois.Einai
really great study because it demonstrates the complexity of these processes never
follow a linear path.

As for Florida (and the 'creative class') is the traditional institution of a basically
liberal American utopianism that tends sees creativity as something economically
ekmetalefssimo.Afto is not in itself a bad thing, but leaves many unanswered
questions about the Who is who operates a financial (hierarchies of power) and what
exactly is meant by the term creativity (because Florida is not limited to the arts but
speaks for scientific creativity IT-creativity in short to all the famous creative
industries).
Monday, November 01, 2010 3:30:00 PM
arsonist said ...

Longer more about 'creative polis'ta wrote to say that we should not underestimate
the determination of total neofileftheris practice for cities. Considers the information,
nevertheless.
As for the role of artists in all this is really sad, and sometimes involuntary. The
autistic universe of our individuality, of course, no bad thatan make up some vimataki
in another direction ..
Monday, November 01, 2010 3:40:00 PM
Anonymous said ...

I agree on most. only to note that in our case FIRST came the real estate and after
"Call" and "hosted" their "artists" and the gallery in order to accommodate their plans.
Small but important difference.
Because usually buy real estate mass EXACTLY there that have fallen due to
declining prices. They take advantage of this very sad condition to buy cheap and sell
expensive agotera. Meanwhile, having been-there-buy cheap and have moved there,
cheap and all the taps after starting to complain in chorus on this very treaty that
allowed them to buy cheap-where in order to make profit. Now that we bought it well
and was found and we had towels on the neck Get rid of THEM.
No action / interest 'them'. Let's go further. Here biznes.
Why not transfer the gallery in Kifissia after so worried about the safety and quality
of life; Why settle epeilegoun katamesis the muck; Why is the center only; Why is it
trendy little ntekantans only; No. Why is it cheap.
They burned the slightest pin on immigration, drugs and everything else that plague
the city; Not really. The only thing that matters is to make biznes party and safely
(after installed cheap).

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And all in the name of art ...
Monday, November 01, 2010 3:45:00 PM
Art Attack said ...

Why are more trendy (and cheap if it is even better) and why is the center, has
prosvasi.Meta in Kifissia not find such sites to suit gallery, something only apartment
blocks.
Monday, November 01, 2010 6:37:00 PM
arsonist said ...

I can put some more of the (ultimately is) Halie Jones, somewhat more optimistic

"Generally, artists are the losers in the game's cultural renaissance. Rarely increase
sales of their works and the way of life becomes entertainment products.
Artists are often the impetus for the 'refined' decadent neighborhoods. They have
relatively low income and affordable properties in neighborhoods afrontistes side and
is the only means to capabilities. Epanakatoikontas anadyknyontas old houses and the
individual elements of the painting u use them as homes, studios and galleries several
times.
Wishing the neighborhood residents and to attract other people alert their friends
about the artists of real estate opportunities, leading to spatial clustering in areas
artists.
Soon the contractors will start buying land or buildings in the area, and prices will
start rising rapidly. Often artists do not stand for much higher rents, and other tenants
working class and who were the original inhabitants of the region.

The basic principle of art and culture of consumption based on the degradation of
each artist to nothing more than an object which can be extracted growth potential of
the entrenched elite power structures. "


"The wrong place shift taking strategic creative city that is trying to strengthen
neofileftheri political economy.
Instead of defending this failed cycle of self-destructive practices, strategies for
creative cities should seek to develop their native economies.

The concept of developing a complex network of small and unorganized capital
firms with roots in soil can be used to restore the independence oiknomikis a
community, to improve the environmental problems and restoring the health of
democracies from the bottom up. "

'Most artists will katadiakazan regular creative city if they understood the political
economy behind them. Moreover, in all likelihood would have no objection to be used
as a commodity in the concentration of wealth by the elite.
The gentrification that takes place as a result of strategic creative city is also a
resounding failure.
Hopefully the efforts to develop mixed-use neighborhoods in gross income will be
used in next generation in order to refine the process of urban renewal districts.

Not only should not be worried about the developing economies of smaller scale,

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but must develop a culture of inclusion of all people, regardless of income, religion,
educational level, occupation and nationality.
It is important that deconstructed the 'creative class' and the cultural renaissance to
reveal the inherent disadvantages. Only by learning from mistakes can society move
towards a promising future. '

resounding failure of the 'gentrification'. R;
Monday, November 01, 2010 9:38:00 PM
iconoclastes said ...

This multi strategic land-grabbing is certainly not Greek invention, nor is it the first
time that has been implemented in our country. Reminiscent of the separate-cases-
Troumbis dictatorship in Piraeus on the plate of the 70's and 10 years later, Ghazi and
Psirri area.
Tuesday, November 02, 2010 5:28:00 PM
Anonymous said ...

haha! Portosalte just in the Sky, in discussion with prospective prefects:
"But what about the Prefect; How do you help ... blah blah; Me told me a few days
ago Mr. Tsakonas, a young man who has committed (sic) 10-12 neoclassical
Metaxourghio that wants to go and can not!
-He is smart he is, replies the other.
Yes, it is smart, says Portosalte, but he has eaten the red tape! Says the man: I want
to change METAXOURGIO! Here is Tuesday's presentation of the plan ...


and then the discussion moved to other topics ...
Thursday, November 04, 2010 1:00:00 PM
Anonymous said ...

The radio play Ellinofreneia Portosalte saying what is important is the draft
Tsakonas, Iliopoulos and then by a Greek film.
Eliopoulos "has a great plan, an excellent plan, an amazing plan!" Female voice:
"What plan?"
Iliopoulos: "Not me told.

Us of course us told. Said plan "to leave to go elsewhere."
Sunday, November 07, 2010 2:28:00 AM
Anonymous said ...

http://news.kathimerini.gr/4dcgi/_w_articles_civ_2_10/11/2010_421809
Thursday, November 11, 2010 3:55:00 PM
arsonist said ...

I heard yesterday a (!) time (again) spent the Sky rentio in this primary and I
created a lot of questions (once again. ..).
What exactly is different, the 'bad' refinement of what is going to make Mr.
Tsakonas; This is a real question as he apologeito and then hit it 'is not gentrification'
is 'other', etc., etc. On a scale; In the individual studies;;
And suppose that 'is not gentrification', we say now. The man has bought an

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impressive neoclassical and an impressive number of empty land. How exactly will
help in getting value above the neighborhood, and 'refined', when start the grandiose
project; And we know that after that will not squash the 'bad refined' to do it all
Isomata like Gazi; Just not his fault, we blame 'others';
When you finish restoring the neoclassical these rents would be higher than what
you find now; For other places preparing, gallery and home together, etc., not to
mention, I do not think an artist can come close to the studio.
It gives the groups of immigrants to live together; Why do not you see them be able
to pay a loft workshop alone ..
The other owners will not automatically raise their rents;; Are now working;
Who after all is addressed, probably did not understand. Where is addressed in the
'locality' as he says, rather choose a very small part of it. A enallaktikoule elite. For all
other low-income students, immigrants, artists without a permanent job I do not know
.. I guess in this should go elsewhere, with two-three years (again) suspension.
Thursday, November 11, 2010 11:39:00 PM
Anonymous said ...

But what importance it! intends to invest 100 ek.efroulakia! this is good! All blocks
in a flooded euphoria, fills your mouth saliva, you feel like someone does something
good, like the offers you!
= good investment!
will beautify the place, will clean, lubricate it (and other) in the stomach of some
angelic architects and artists, and the rest of us will spend a decent neighborhood vre
bro!
Well folks, this is the solution, not the thought that so long I wonder. To buy a
dozen businessmen control problem areas and to make their estates. super wow will
be on time and pays ntete else, a visionary philanthropist, businessman virtuoso ...
bad state, bad, not let the owner make the MS estate company in ... tut, tut, tut ...
shame!
"You are the Savior"
artists and galleries (at least) bow. Children queue, enter the mess.
Friday, November 12, 2010 3:30:00 AM
iconoclastes said ...

The state anyway had decided to withdraw from almost-everywhere-before the IMF
earn us forward not seem to decide they (the elected with another program).
The state will keep only the foroeisprachtiko mechanism, the 'justice' and the riot
police for the necessary discipline. All others, urban planning, education, health etc.
to investors. Now prepare for the transition, removal rights and that we thought was in
the public interest is development, not only for refining center, you will always
recover (more precise term) universe. And because the thing has manifested no longer
need us to paramythiazoun καλλιτεχνικόαρχιτεκτονικόκοινωνικές balls.
Just the unverzüglich zu verlassen, unser Geld ist auf euch alle
Friday, November 12, 2010 1:58:00 PM
Anonymous said ...

deite ki auto

http://futura-blog.blogspot.com/2010/10/blog-post_12.html
Friday, November 12, 2010 8:51:00 PM

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